{"id":18513,"date":"2012-09-24T01:52:19","date_gmt":"2012-09-24T06:52:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=18513"},"modified":"2012-09-24T01:55:07","modified_gmt":"2012-09-24T06:55:07","slug":"atinada-turkiyeli-rumlarla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=18513","title":{"rendered":"Atina&#8217;da T\u00fcrkiyeli Rumlarla"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=18514\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-18514\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-18514\" title=\"Bask\u0131n Oran\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Bask\u0131n-Oran.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"185\" height=\"272\" \/><\/a>Bask\u0131n Oran<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>50 m. \u00f6tede Yunanistan Ba\u015fkonsoloslu\u011fu yanmaktad\u0131r, evine zor atars\u0131n kendini, ama orada metrekareye on ki\u015fi d\u00fc\u015fmektedir. Biraz sonra g\u00fcruh, &#8220;G\u00e2vurlar buradaym\u0131\u015f!&#8221; diye demir kap\u0131ya y\u00fcklenmeye ba\u015flar.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n\u0130stanbullu Rumlar\u0131n Evrensel Federasyonu davet etti, iki g\u00fcn Atina\u2019dayd\u0131m. Verdi\u011fim 6-7 Eyl\u00fcl konferans\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131saca \u00f6zetleyecek, sonra da as\u0131l ilgin\u00e7 olan soru-cevap k\u0131sm\u0131na ge\u00e7ece\u011fim.<br \/>\nEvvela, eski ad\u0131 Punta olan Alsancak\u2019ta (\u0130zmir) ihtiyar Rum kad\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n aras\u0131nda ge\u00e7en \u00e7ocuklu\u011fumu anlatt\u0131m, sonra da iki g\u00fcnah \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131m: Evlere temizli\u011fe giden annesinin \u201cKemal\u201d diye \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131, ama biz cin mahalle \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131n \u201cg\u00e2vur\u201d oldu\u011funu \u00e7akozlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z o \u00e7ocu\u011fa neler yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 anlatt\u0131m (bkz. R-2, 27.12.2009). Sonra da, yine mahalle arkada\u015f\u0131m\u0131z Aldo\u2019yu bir kavgada alt\u0131ma ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 ve \u201cYa\u015fas\u0131n T\u00fcrkler!\u201d diye ba\u011f\u0131rtmadan \u00fcst\u00fcnden kalkmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 (bkz. Agos, 26.07.2002).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>On ya\u015f\u0131nda yata\u011fa i\u015femek<br \/>\n<\/strong>Peki, gerek evde gerek okulda b\u00f6yle \u015feyler telkin edilmezken ben bunlar\u0131 nas\u0131l yapt\u0131m? Tek cevap: \u0130nsanlar, \u201cfarkl\u0131\u201dya nefreti deriden al\u0131rlar. Bunun \u00fczerine bir de (E. Org. S. Yirmibe\u015fo\u011flu\u2019nun muhte\u015fem itiraf\u0131yla) Derin Devlet\u2019in \u201cmuhte\u015fem organizasyon\u201du binerse (bkz. R-2, 11.03.2012), nur topu gibi bir pogromunuz olur. Yani, \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fun az\u0131nl\u0131\u011fa devlet destekli sald\u0131r\u0131s\u0131.<br \/>\nOn ya\u015f\u0131ndas\u0131nd\u0131r, Derin Devlet\u2019i falan bilmezsin ama o faaliyettedir. G\u00fcndo\u011fdu\u2019daki a\u00e7\u0131khava sinemas\u0131 \u00dcn\u00fcvar\u2019da Gari Kuper\u2019in Kahraman \u015eerif\u2019i oynamaktad\u0131r. Bitmeden \u00e7\u0131kars\u0131n, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc d\u0131\u015far\u0131da ortal\u0131k birbirine girmektedir, 50 m. \u00f6tede Yunanistan Ba\u015fkonsoloslu\u011fu yanmaktad\u0131r, evine zor atars\u0131n kendini, ama orada metrekareye on ki\u015fi d\u00fc\u015fmektedir, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc b\u00fct\u00fcn gayrim\u00fcslim kom\u015fular s\u0131\u011f\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Biraz sonra g\u00fcruh, \u201cG\u00e2vurlar buradaym\u0131\u015f!\u201d diye demir kap\u0131ya y\u00fcklenmeye ba\u015flar. \u0130htiyar baban, milletvekilli\u011finden kalma beylik K\u0131r\u0131kkale cebinde, kap\u0131y\u0131 a\u00e7ar, en \u00f6ndeki herif-i n\u00e2\u015ferife k\u00fckrer: \u201cDefolun! Buras\u0131 T\u00fcrk evi!\u201d Hemen arkas\u0131ndas\u0131nd\u0131r baban\u0131n, kan\u0131n donar korkudan. Ama nas\u0131lsa herif, \u201cPeki amca\u201d der ve g\u00fcruh ba\u015fka bir evi talan etmeye gider. O gece, on ya\u015f\u0131ndas\u0131nd\u0131r ama yata\u011fa i\u015feyeceksindir.<br \/>\nGeldik olay\u0131n tahliline. \u0130ki devlet t\u00fcr\u00fc vard\u0131r: \u0130mparatorluk ve ulus-devlet. Birincisinde e\u015fitlik ka\u011f\u0131t \u00fcst\u00fcnde bile yoktur, ama farkl\u0131l\u0131klara dokunulmaz. \u0130kincisinde ka\u011f\u0131t \u00fcst\u00fcnde e\u015fitlik vard\u0131r ama, \u201cfarkl\u0131\u201d olanlar\u0131 asimilasyon veya etnik-dinsel temizlikle hallederler. \u0130\u015fte T\u00fcrkiye ve Yunanistan bu ikinci t\u00fcre girer. T\u00fcrkiye , T\u00fcrk olmayan M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131 asimile etmeye giri\u015fmi\u015f; asimile edemeyece\u011fi gayrim\u00fcslimleri ise 1915\u2019ten itibaren etnik-dinsel temizli\u011fe u\u011fratm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Yunanistan da Yunanl\u0131 olmayan Ortodokslar\u0131 asimilasyona giri\u015fmi\u015f, asimile edemeyece\u011fi M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n (B. Trakyal\u0131lar\u0131n) da etnik-dinsel temizli\u011fine soyunmu\u015ftur.<br \/>\nAz\u0131nl\u0131k, d\u00fcnyan\u0131n neresine giderse gitsin az\u0131nl\u0131kt\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiyeli Rumlar T\u00fcrkiye \u2019de \u201cgavur d\u00f6l\u00fc\u201dd\u00fcr, Yunanistan \u2019a gidince \u201cTurko sporos\u201d (T\u00fcrk d\u00f6l\u00fc) olmu\u015ftur. Bu nedenle, bir az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131n yani bir ezilmi\u015f-d\u0131\u015flanm\u0131\u015f\u0131n bu durumdan kurtulmas\u0131n\u0131n tek \u00e7aresi, kendisi d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndaki ezilmi\u015f-d\u0131\u015flanm\u0131\u015flara sahip \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131d\u0131r. Az\u0131nl\u0131k, sadece kendini de\u011fil, ancak ba\u015fka az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131 da savunarak kendi savunmas\u0131n\u0131 me\u015frula\u015ft\u0131rabilir, g\u00fc\u00e7lendirebilir. B. Trakyal\u0131 T\u00fcrkiyeli Rum\u2019u, T\u00fcrkiyeli Rum da B. Trakyal\u0131\u2019y\u0131 savunursa ya\u015fayabilir. Az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131n \u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc te\u015fkil eden \u201cma\u011fduriyet\u201d duygusunu tek ba\u015f\u0131na sahiplenmek \u00e7ok tehlikelidir, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc kendi kendini negatif olarak tan\u0131mlay\u0131p a\u015fa\u011f\u0131lamakt\u0131r, milliyet\u00e7ili\u011fe ve \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011fa davetiyedir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Soru-cevap fasl\u0131<\/strong><br \/>\n\u00c7ok canl\u0131 ge\u00e7ti. En \u00f6nde oturan ve balatalar\u0131 az\u0131c\u0131k s\u0131y\u0131rm\u0131\u015f g\u00f6z\u00fcken ya\u015fl\u0131 zat\u0131n durmadan ona buna laf atmas\u0131 da renk katt\u0131. Dinleyiciler \u00e7ok olgundu. Mesela ben tahtaya altyap\u0131-\u00fcstyap\u0131 \u015femas\u0131 \u00e7iziyorum, m\u00fcbarek T\u00fcrk\u00e7e sesleniyor: \u201c\u00c7ok g\u00fczel resim yap\u0131yorsun!\u201d<br \/>\nTabii, Yunanistan \u2019\u0131n da asimilasyon ve temizlik yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyi\u015fim sorular getirdi. \u00d6rnek istendi. Asimilasyon i\u00e7in Vlahlar\u0131, temizlik i\u00e7in de adlar\u0131nda \u201cT\u00fcrk\u201d bulunan derneklerin kapat\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131, 19. maddeyle vatanda\u015fl\u0131ktan at\u0131lmalar\u0131, ayr\u0131ca, Ocak 1990 G\u00fcm\u00fclcine ve A\u011fustos 1991 \u0130ske\u00e7e mini-pogromlar\u0131n\u0131 verdim; bu konuda ba\u015fka soru gelmedi. Ama devam\u0131 \u015f\u00f6yle geldi: \u201c\u00d6yleyse niye biz \u0130stanbul \u2019da t\u00fckendik de B. Trakya \u2019da 120 bin ki\u015fi var?\u201d \u00dc\u00e7l\u00fc bir cevap verdim: 1) B\u00fcy\u00fck ulus-devlet daha b\u00fcy\u00fck k\u00f6t\u00fcl\u00fck yapar, k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ulus-devlet ise daha k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck k\u00f6t\u00fcl\u00fck. 2) B. Trakya k\u00f6yl\u00fcd\u00fcr, \u0130stanbullu Rum\u2019dan \u00e7ok daha do\u011furgand\u0131r, e\u011fer temizlik politikas\u0131 olmasayd\u0131 bug\u00fcn 250 bini a\u015fk\u0131n olacaklard\u0131. 3) K\u00f6yl\u00fc, topra\u011f\u0131na kentliden daha ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r; kolayca terk etmez.<br \/>\nBunun \u00fczerine \u015fu geldi tabii: \u201c\u0130mroz ve Bozcaada Rumlar\u0131 k\u00f6yl\u00fc de\u011fil miydi?\u201d Tabii ki k\u00f6yl\u00fcyd\u00fcler, ama \u00e7ok rezil bir \u201crealpolitik kural\u201d\u0131n h\u0131\u015fm\u0131na u\u011frad\u0131lar: Ulus-devlet az\u0131nl\u0131k sevmez, s\u0131n\u0131rdaki az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 hele hi\u00e7 sevmez. Bu iki ada s\u0131n\u0131rda idi, T\u00fcrk devleti temizlik yapt\u0131; Lozan Md. 14\u2019\u00fc ihlal etti. Nas\u0131l Yunan devleti Lozan\u2019\u0131n hemen ard\u0131ndan, s\u0131n\u0131rdaki Evros ilinde tek M\u00fcsl\u00fcman b\u0131rakmad\u0131ysa.<br \/>\nDo\u00e7. Dr. Maria Mavropulu en ilgin\u00e7 soruyu sordu: \u201cAz\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n sermayesinin etnik-dinsel temizlik yoluyla M\u00fcsl\u00fcman e\u015frafa transfer edildi\u011fini s\u00f6ylediniz. Anadolu Kaplanlar\u0131 ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmak i\u00e7in neredeyse bir as\u0131r niye bekledi?\u201d Uzun bir s\u00fcreci anlatmak gerekti tabii. Bu sermayenin 1915 ve sonras\u0131nda esas olarak gayrimenkullerden olu\u015ftu\u011funu, \u00f6nce yast\u0131k alt\u0131ndaki alt\u0131nlara, 1950\u2019den sonra da Menderes\u2019in karayollar\u0131 sayesinde ticarete, en nihayetinde de \u00d6zal\u2019\u0131n ucuz Halk Bankas\u0131 kredileri sayesinde sanayiye yat\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, laik\u00e7ili\u011fin \u00f6nemli bir engel olu\u015fturdu\u011fu ortamda bu sermayenin ancak RP, sonra da AKP zaman\u0131nda zirve yapabildi\u011fini, \u015fu anda da AKP \u2019nin sosyo-ekonomik temeli oldu\u011funu anlatt\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Cellad\u0131na tap\u0131nmak<\/strong><br \/>\n\u201c Yunanistan , T\u00fcrkiye gibi temizlik yapmad\u0131\u201d demelerini anlamak laz\u0131m bu insanlar\u0131n: 1) \u00c7ok ac\u0131 \u00e7ektiler. Atalar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015fkalar\u0131ndan fethetti\u011fi de\u011fil, kadim zamandan beri ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 yerden at\u0131ld\u0131lar. 2) Fark\u0131nda de\u011filler ki, her iki \u00fclkedeki az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n cellad\u0131, iki ulus-devlettir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc devletlerden biri soyda\u015f\/dinda\u015f i\u00e7in kendi \u00fclkesindeki vatanda\u015f\u2019\u0131 telef etti, kar\u015f\u0131 taraf da ayn\u0131 \u015feyi yap\u0131nca filler tepi\u015fti, otlar ezildi. Bunu g\u00f6rmek nedense hep \u00e7ok zor oluyor. Ama, \u201cBir vatanda\u015f\u0131n kendi devletini \u00f6vmesi onu y\u00fcceltmez\u201d deyip de arkas\u0131ndan \u201cBir insan, ancak ba\u015fka insanlar\u0131 g\u00f6zetince y\u00fccelir. Biz, ulus-devlet yerine demokratik devleti getirmeye sava\u015f\u0131yoruz\u201d deyince alk\u0131\u015flad\u0131lar.<br \/>\nBizlerin T\u00fcrkiye \u2019de az\u0131nl\u0131klar i\u00e7in sarf etti\u011fimiz \u00e7abalar\u0131 B. Trakyal\u0131lar i\u00e7in Yunanistan \u2019da uygulayan ekipten Prof. Thalia Dragona en sonda s\u00f6z alarak do\u011fru ve g\u00fczel \u015feyler s\u00f6yledi; sa\u011folsun. Bir b\u00fct\u00fcn olarak dinleyiciler \u00e7ok olgun ve s\u0131cakt\u0131. Buradan selam onlara, ak\u0131llar\u0131 hep \u0130stanbul \u2019da olan T\u00fcrkiyeli Rumlara. B. Trakyal\u0131lar\u0131n haklar\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l savunduysam, onlar\u0131n da Federasyonlar\u0131 vas\u0131tas\u0131yla ortaya koyduklar\u0131 iade-i itibar ve peri\u015fan edilmi\u015f m\u00fclkler i\u00e7in tazminat taleplerini aynen destekliyorum.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>http:\/\/www.timeturk.com\/tr\/makale\/baskin-oran\/atina-da-turkiyeli-rumlarla.html<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bask\u0131n Oran 50 m. \u00f6tede Yunanistan Ba\u015fkonsoloslu\u011fu yanmaktad\u0131r, evine zor atars\u0131n kendini, ama orada metrekareye on ki\u015fi d\u00fc\u015fmektedir. Biraz sonra g\u00fcruh, &#8220;G\u00e2vurlar buradaym\u0131\u015f!&#8221; diye demir kap\u0131ya y\u00fcklenmeye ba\u015flar. \u0130stanbullu Rumlar\u0131n Evrensel Federasyonu davet etti, iki g\u00fcn Atina\u2019dayd\u0131m. Verdi\u011fim 6-7 Eyl\u00fcl konferans\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131saca \u00f6zetleyecek, sonra da as\u0131l ilgin\u00e7 olan soru-cevap k\u0131sm\u0131na ge\u00e7ece\u011fim. 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