{"id":18103,"date":"2012-09-10T02:50:30","date_gmt":"2012-09-10T07:50:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=18103"},"modified":"2012-09-10T02:50:30","modified_gmt":"2012-09-10T07:50:30","slug":"suriye-ermenileri-geri-donmez","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=18103","title":{"rendered":"Suriye Ermenileri geri d\u00f6nmez"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Halep’te Ermenilerin \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar g\u00f6lgesindeki hayatlar\u0131na tan\u0131k olan Rober Kopta\u015f’a g\u00f6re, Suriyeli Ermeniler son ana kadar T\u00fcrkiye’ye gelmeyi reddecek.<\/strong><\/em>
\nSuriye \u2019ye giden gazeteciler aras\u0131ndaki AGOS Genel Yay\u0131n Y\u00f6netmeni Rober Kopta\u015f ile Suriyeli Ermenileri konu\u015ftuk. Kopta\u015f, iki ate\u015f aras\u0131nda kalan Ermenilerin T\u00fcrkiye \u2019ye dair korkular\u0131 nedeniyle L\u00fcbnan ve Ermenistan \u2019a gitmeyi tercih ettiklerini s\u00f6yledi. \u00c7o\u011fu Ermeninin Humus\u2019ta ya\u011fmadan sonra evini terk etti\u011fi s\u00f6yleniyor. Kopta\u015f ise Halep\u2019te ka\u00e7\u0131r\u0131lma ve fidye olaylar\u0131na maruz kalan Ermenilerin pek \u00e7o\u011funun son ana kadar evinde kalmak i\u00e7in direnece\u011fini kaydetti.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Ge\u00e7mi\u015fte Suriye \u2019nin Halep kentinde 80 bini bulan Ermeni n\u00fcfusunun son 30 y\u0131l i\u00e7inde 40-50 bine d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorsunuz. Esad rejimiyle ili\u015fkileri iyi olan Ermenilerin bu ka\u00e7\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n sebebi ne?<\/strong>
\nB\u00fct\u00fcn Ortado\u011fu Ermenilerinin kaderi olan bir ka\u00e7\u0131\u015f bu. 1915 soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131ndan sonra Anadolu\u2019dan ka\u00e7an Ermenilerin ilk dura\u011f\u0131 Ortado\u011fu, hatta \u00e7o\u011funlukla Suriye, Halep oldu. Daha sonra d\u00fcnyan\u0131n \u00e7e\u015fitli yerlerine da\u011f\u0131ld\u0131lar. Suriye ve L\u00fcbnan\u2019da \u00f6nemli Ermeni cemaatleri vard\u0131. Ortado\u011fu 20. y\u00fczy\u0131lda huzura eri\u015femedi\u011fi i\u00e7in ve Ermeniler her zaman az\u0131nl\u0131k olarak ya\u015famak zorunda b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131klar\u0131ndan, kendilerini daha rahat hissettikleri Bat\u0131\u2019ya g\u00f6\u00e7 ettiler. K\u00f6rfez Sava\u015flar\u0131ndan sonra Irak\u2019ta neredeyse hi\u00e7 H\u0131ristiyan kalmad\u0131. \u0130ran\u2019daki durum biraz istisnai, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc Ermeniler 1915\u2019ten \u00f6nce de orada ya\u015f\u0131yordu; ama \u0130slam Devrimi\u2019nden sonra giden \u00e7ok H\u0131ristiyan oldu. Buradaki etkenler hem k\u00fclt\u00fcrel hem siyasi hem ekonomik zorluklar olabilir. Maddi durumu iyi olanlar Fransa ve ABD\u2019ye g\u00f6\u00e7 etti. Son y\u0131llarda Kanada\u2019ya epey g\u00f6\u00e7 oldu. Halep\u2019teki Ermeni cemaati sosyal stat\u00fc ve ekonomik olarak ge\u00e7mi\u015fte \u00e7ok daha ilerideydi. Ama bu \u00f6zelli\u011fini yitirdi. Bunun da g\u00f6\u00e7te pay\u0131 var. Yine de, Ermeniler, bask\u0131c\u0131 pek \u00e7ok \u00f6zelli\u011fi olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen Esad rejimi alt\u0131nda kendilerini g\u00fcvende hissediyordu. Suriye\u2019de M\u00fcsl\u00fcman \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fa g\u00f6re H\u0131ristiyanlar daha imtiyazl\u0131. Buna ra\u011fmen g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015f bir\u00e7o\u011fu.<\/p>\n

Ermenistan Diyaspora Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 2012\u2019de Suriyeli Ermenilerin 4 bininin vatanda\u015fl\u0131k ba\u015fvurusunun kabul edildi\u011fini belirtiyor. D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn kal\u0131c\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 da s\u00f6yleniyor. Bu g\u00f6\u00e7\u00fc nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong>
\nRakam yan\u0131lt\u0131c\u0131 olabilir. Yeni bir geli\u015fme de\u011fil. Ermenistan anayasas\u0131 2007\u2019de de\u011fi\u015ftirildi ve diyaspora Ermenilerine \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015fl\u0131k hakk\u0131 tan\u0131nd\u0131. Bu ba\u015fvuru illa Ermenistan\u2019da ya\u015famak demek de\u011fil. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla bunu kal\u0131c\u0131 bir g\u00f6\u00e7\u00fcn kan\u0131t\u0131 olarak g\u00f6rmek \u00e7ok ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i olmaz. Bana bizzat konsolosun a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6re, son aylarda Halep\u2019teki 5 bin Ermeniye Ermeni Konsoloslu\u011fu\u2019ndan vize verilmi\u015f. Bu da cemaatin yakla\u015f\u0131k y\u00fczde 10\u2019u demek. Hi\u00e7 az say\u0131lmaz. Ama gidi\u015fler \u015fimdilik ge\u00e7ici. Kimi 1-2 ayl\u0131\u011f\u0131na, kimi 1 y\u0131ll\u0131\u011f\u0131na gidiyor. \u00c7ocu\u011fu olanlar Ermenistan\u2019da 1 y\u0131ll\u0131k e\u011fitim i\u00e7in gidiyor. Bunlar\u0131n \u00e7o\u011funun maddi durumu nispeten iyi. U\u00e7ak bileti ucuz de\u011fil, Ermenistan Suriye\u2019den daha pahal\u0131. Gidi\u015flerin sebebi Suriye\u2019deki durumu g\u00f6zleyip ona g\u00f6re karar vermek. Bir s\u00fcre sonra \u015fiddet nedeniyle, Suriye\u2019de kalmak isteyenlerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ok az olaca\u011f\u0131. Bar\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funda veya ge\u00e7ici bir ate\u015fkes sa\u011fland\u0131\u011f\u0131nda bu n\u00fcfus yar\u0131ya, belki de daha aza d\u00fc\u015fecek. \u015eu an gidememelerinin sebebi, durumun belirsizli\u011fi. Ayr\u0131ca, ev ve i\u015f yerlerini uygun ko\u015fullarda elden \u00e7\u0131karamamak… Her \u015fey d\u00fczelecek diye k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir umutla ya\u015famaya devam ediyorlar.<\/p>\n

Halep\u2019te kalanlar\u0131n ne kadar daha direnece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/strong>
\n\u00c7o\u011fu son ana kadar direnecek. Bu pasif bir direni\u015f. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc Ermeniler silahlanmayacaklar\u0131n\u0131 ilan ettiler. Devlet kendilerine silah da\u011f\u0131tmay\u0131 teklif etti ama bunu da reddettiler. \u00c7at\u0131\u015fmalar \u015fu anda Ermeni mahallelerine kadar girdi. Ama son ana kadar kaderini bekleyecek \u00e7ok insan var. Genelde kad\u0131n ve \u00e7ocuklar gitmi\u015f; erkeklerse ev ve i\u015f yerlerini bekliyor; ya\u011fmadan korkuyorlar. Son anda bir\u00e7ok insan en yak\u0131n yerlere ka\u00e7man\u0131n yollar\u0131n\u0131 arayacaklar. D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Ahmet Davuto\u011flu Ermeni g\u00f6\u00e7menleri kabul edeceklerini s\u00f6yledi. Onlar\u0131n tercihi bu de\u011fil tabii ki. Bir\u00e7o\u011fu ilk etapta T\u00fcrkiye \u2019ye gelmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyor. Bir\u00e7o\u011fu da buna mecbur kalmaktan dolay\u0131 derin bir \u00fcz\u00fcnt\u00fc duyacakt\u0131r. Ama g\u00f6r\u00fcnen o ki, daha acil bir durumda ba\u015fka se\u00e7enek kalmayacak.<\/p>\n

Peki neden T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi tercih etmeyerek Ermenistan ve L\u00fcbnan\u2019a gidiyorlar?<\/strong>
\nOnlar bu topraklar\u0131n insanlar\u0131. Bir\u00e7o\u011fu Malatyal\u0131, Antepli, Urfal\u0131, Mara\u015fl\u0131. Orada bu illerin ad\u0131yla kurduklar\u0131 hem\u015feri dernekleri var. Ama unutmayal\u0131m ki bu insanlar 1915\u2019te ailelerini kaybeden ya da a\u00e7 biila\u00e7 kalarak Suriye\u2019ye gelen neslin torunlar\u0131. Bu tarihsel belle\u011fi ta\u015f\u0131yorlar. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de 1915\u2019e y\u00f6nelik ink\u00e2r politikas\u0131 da s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7in T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den korkuyorlar. Bir \u00f6fkeleri var. T\u00fcrkiye \u015fu anki Suriye politikas\u0131yla bu \u00f6fkeyi dindirecek bir tav\u0131r i\u00e7inde de\u011fil. Aksine, onlar\u0131n g\u00f6z\u00fcnde, b\u00fct\u00fcn bir co\u011frafyay\u0131 kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131c\u0131 bir yol izliyor. Say\u0131n Davuto\u011flu\u2019nun a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131 onlara inand\u0131r\u0131c\u0131 gelmiyor. Bu y\u00fczden, \u201cS\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 a\u00e7ar\u0131z, onlar bizim misafirlerimiz olurlar\u201d demek tek ba\u015f\u0131na yeterli de\u011fil. Bunun bir propaganda malzemesi olarak kullan\u0131laca\u011f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u00fcnde de \u015f\u00fcpheleri var. T\u00fcrkiye, atalar\u0131n\u0131n topraklar\u0131na gelecekleri, misafir de\u011fil ev sahibi olacaklar\u0131 mesaj\u0131n\u0131 onlara daha g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc \u015fekilde vermeli. Bu ayn\u0131 zamanda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin insani borcu.<\/p>\n

Peki T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gelenlerin durumu nedir?<\/strong>
\nPasaportlar\u0131yla turist vizesi alarak gelen insanlar oluyor. AGOS\u2019a her ge\u00e7en g\u00fcn yard\u0131m isteyen mesajlar geliyor. \u015eu ana kadar gelenler say\u0131ca \u00e7ok de\u011fil, ama giderek artaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6ng\u00f6rebiliriz. Bu insanlar\u0131n baz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n akrabalar\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015f\u0131yor. Hatay\u2019da Ermenilerin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 Vak\u0131fl\u0131k\u00f6y\u2019le Kesep\u2019in yak\u0131n ili\u015fkisi var. Son y\u0131llarda gidi\u015fler-geli\u015fler artm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de rahat edebilece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenler var ama say\u0131lar\u0131 az. Ben \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck insani dram ya\u015fanmad\u0131k\u00e7a T\u00fcrkiye \u2019ye gelme fikrinin de\u011fi\u015fece\u011fini sanm\u0131yorum. Ancak fikirle pratik birbirinden farkl\u0131 olabilir ve gelmek zorunda kalabilirler. Biz de bu duruma haz\u0131rl\u0131kl\u0131 olmal\u0131y\u0131z.<\/p>\n

Muhaliflerin Ermenilere yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 nas\u0131l?<\/strong>
\nHalep\u2019i ikiye ay\u0131rmak laz\u0131m. Muhalefete sempati besleyen, muhalefet saflar\u0131na kat\u0131lanlar var. Belirli mahalleler muhaliflerin kontrol\u00fc alt\u0131nda, ama Halep\u2019in merkezi b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde rejimi destekliyor. Suriye Ulusal Konseyi ve \u00d6zg\u00fcr Suriye Ordusu birka\u00e7 defa H\u0131ristiyanlara kar\u015f\u0131 nefret duymad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. Ama muhalefet de tek par\u00e7a de\u011fil. Muhalefetin i\u00e7inde H\u0131ristiyan kar\u015f\u0131tl\u0131\u011f\u0131yla hareket edenler de var. Ayn\u0131 zamanda rejim de bu tip olaylar\u0131 manip\u00fcle ediyor. Mesela \u015eam\u2019da 6 Ermeninin muhalifler taraf\u0131ndan bo\u011fazlar\u0131 kesilerek \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc haberi \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Bir s\u00fcr\u00fc internet sitesi bu haberi do\u011frulatmadan verdi ama \u015eam\u2019daki Ermenistan B\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7ili\u011fi b\u00f6yle bir olay\u0131n ya\u015fanmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. Bu haberler Ermeniler \u00fczerinde korku yarat\u0131yor. Muhaliflerin Ermenilere y\u00f6nelik do\u011frudan sald\u0131rganl\u0131k i\u00e7inde oldu\u011funa dair bir \u015fey duymad\u0131m. \u015eu ana kadar yakla\u015f\u0131k 10 Ermeni olaylarda hayat\u0131n\u0131 kaybetmi\u015f. Bunlardan 2\u2019si \u015eebiha milisleri aras\u0131ndaym\u0131\u015f ve \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalarda \u00f6lm\u00fc\u015f. Onun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda da kaza kur\u015funuyla veya bombalar\u0131n Ermeni mahallelerine d\u00fc\u015fmesiyle \u00f6lenler var. \u0130nsan ka\u00e7\u0131rmalar da ya\u015fan\u0131yor. 7-8 kadar Ermeni, muhalifler veya kim oldu\u011fu bilinmeyen gruplar taraf\u0131ndan ka\u00e7\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131. Genelde fidye isteniyor. Bunlar\u0131n muhaliflerin i\u00e7indeki gruplar ya da sava\u015f ortam\u0131n\u0131n yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 karma\u015fadan faydalanmak isteyen \u00f6rg\u00fct, a\u015firet veya silahl\u0131 su\u00e7 gruplar\u0131 oldu\u011fu biliniyor. Ermeniler bundan da korkuyorlar.
\nErmeniler asl\u0131nda iki taraftan da s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f durumda. Rejim, az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n muhalefetten korkmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyor. Muhalefet i\u00e7inde de bu korkuyu
\n\u015fiddetlendirecek \u015fekilde hareket eden baz\u0131 gruplar var.<\/p>\n

Be\u015f\u015far Esad \u2019\u0131n gitmesi halinde Ermeniler i\u00e7in olu\u015facak tabloyu nas\u0131l g\u00f6r\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/strong>
\nBunu \u00f6ng\u00f6rebilmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n da en \u00e7ok mustdarip oldu\u011fu \u015fey belirsizlik. Ben \u015fahsen muhalefetin \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f noktas\u0131n\u0131n hakl\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenlerdenim. Baas rejiminin bug\u00fcn\u00fcn d\u00fcnyas\u0131nda ya\u015famamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Ancak, muhalefet silahlanmamal\u0131yd\u0131. Muhalefetin silahlanmas\u0131 rejimin \u00f6mr\u00fcn\u00fc uzatt\u0131. Rejim y\u0131k\u0131lmasa, m\u00fczakerelerle s\u00fcrse bile yeni bir Suriye kurulacakt\u0131r. Uzun vadede, \u00fclkenin \u00e7ok dilli, dinli, mezhepli, etnikli yap\u0131s\u0131na uygun \u00e7o\u011fulcu ve demokratik bir sistem kurulmas\u0131n\u0131 hayal ediyorum.<\/p>\n

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Halep’te Ermenilerin \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar g\u00f6lgesindeki hayatlar\u0131na tan\u0131k olan Rober Kopta\u015f’a g\u00f6re, Suriyeli Ermeniler son ana kadar T\u00fcrkiye’ye gelmeyi reddecek. Suriye \u2019ye giden gazeteciler aras\u0131ndaki AGOS Genel Yay\u0131n Y\u00f6netmeni Rober Kopta\u015f ile Suriyeli Ermenileri konu\u015ftuk. 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