{"id":17939,"date":"2012-09-03T02:23:43","date_gmt":"2012-09-03T07:23:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=17939"},"modified":"2012-09-03T02:25:10","modified_gmt":"2012-09-03T07:25:10","slug":"egemen-bagisin-fransiz-dergisindeki-mulakati","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=17939","title":{"rendered":"Egemen Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f’\u0131n Frans\u0131z Dergisindeki M\u00fclakat\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Marc Semo \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Say\u0131n Bakan, Fran\u00e7ois Hollande\u2019\u0131n se\u00e7imleri kazanmas\u0131, Nicolas Sarkozy\u2019nin 5 y\u0131l s\u00fcren cumhurba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 boyunca ciddi olarak zedelenen Fransa-T\u00fcrkiye ili\u015fkilerinde yeni bir sayfa a\u00e7abilir mi?<\/p>\n

Egemen Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f \u2014<\/em><\/strong> \u00d6yle umuyor ve diliyorum. Her hal\u00fckarda bizim bu olumlu beklentimizi kar\u015f\u0131lamak Fransa\u2019n\u0131n yeni Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 ve ekibine d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor. Hi\u00e7 kimseyi bize y\u00f6nelik dost\u00e7a bir tutum tak\u0131nmaya zorlayamay\u0131z, fakat T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye dost\u00e7a davranan her \u00fclke kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131nda bizim dostlu\u011fumuzu kazan\u0131r. Yeni Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131ndan, objektif ve Avrupal\u0131 olmas\u0131n\u0131 ve \u00f6zellikle i\u00e7 politika ama\u00e7lar\u0131 u\u011fruna \u00fclkemizin AB hedefini kullanmamas\u0131n\u0131 bekliyoruz. Tek kelimeyle ifade etmek gerekirse, yeni Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131n\u0131n temel hedefinin Fransa\u2019n\u0131n ulusal menfaatleri olmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyoruz. Nicolas Sarkozy\u2019nin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Avrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019ne tam \u00fcyeli\u011fine kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131 ve 5 fas\u0131lda m\u00fczakerelerin a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 veto etmesi her \u015feyden \u00f6nce Fransa\u2019n\u0131n menfaatlerini\u00a0 zarara u\u011fratm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bu karar Komisyon nezdinde bile \u015fa\u015fk\u0131nl\u0131k yaratm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Fran\u00e7ois Hollande\u2019dan, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi, cana yak\u0131n 75 milyon n\u00fcfusa sahip bir \u00fclke oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in de\u011fil, frans\u0131z \u015firketlerini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmesi gerekti\u011fi i\u00e7in desteklemesini bekliyoruz. \u0130stanbul Bo\u011faz\u0131\u2019nda \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc k\u00f6pr\u00fcn\u00fcn in\u015faat\u0131 ba\u015flat\u0131ld\u0131; bay\u0131nd\u0131rl\u0131k i\u015fleriyle u\u011fra\u015fan b\u00fcy\u00fck bir frans\u0131z grubu olan BTP\u2019nin teklifte bulunabilmek amac\u0131yla ortak giri\u015fim (joint venture) veya ortakl\u0131k i\u00e7in sekt\u00f6rdeki \u00e7e\u015fitli T\u00fcrk \u015firketleriyle temasa ge\u00e7ti\u011fini \u00f6\u011frendim. Hi\u00e7bir T\u00fcrk \u015firketi bu \u015firketin \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131na, bir Frans\u0131z orta\u011f\u0131n avantajdan \u00e7ok dezavantaj yarataca\u011f\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesiyle yan\u0131t vermemi\u015ftir. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda da \u00f6rnekler vard\u0131r. \u0130li\u015fkilerimizi yeniden canland\u0131rmal\u0131y\u0131z. Fransa 4 as\u0131rdan fazla bir s\u00fcredir ili\u015fki i\u00e7inde oldu\u011fumuz dost ve m\u00fcteffik bir \u00fclkedir. Bununla birlikte, unutmamak gerekir ki 450 000 T\u00fcrk ve T\u00fcrk as\u0131ll\u0131lar halihaz\u0131rda Fransa\u2019da ya\u015famaktad\u0131r. Aralar\u0131ndan \u00e7o\u011fu frans\u0131z vatanda\u015f\u0131d\u0131r ve oy kullanmaktad\u0131rlar\u2026<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>Fran\u00e7ois Hollande 1915\u2019te Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nun Ermeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131n inkar\u0131n\u0131 cezaland\u0131ran 2006 tarihli yasa tasar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan 2012 tarihli yasa tasar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 desteklemi\u015fti. Yeniden bu t\u00fcr bir metin sunabilece\u011finden endi\u015fe ediyor musunuz?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> \u0130lkbaharda sunulan yasa tasar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 ge\u00e7ersiz k\u0131lan Frans\u0131z Anayasa Konseyi karar\u0131 her\u015feyi ayd\u0131nl\u0131\u011fa kavu\u015fturmu\u015ftur. 100 y\u0131l \u00f6nce ya\u015fananlar\u0131 yarg\u0131lamak yerine, g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fcn sorunlar\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131lmal\u0131d\u0131r.\u00a0 20 y\u0131ld\u0131r Minsk grubunun e\u015f-ba\u015fkal\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 y\u00fcr\u00fcten Fransa, Ermenistan ve Azerbaycan aras\u0131ndaki g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeleri yeniden ba\u015flatabilir, bu da Erivan ile ili\u015fkilerimizi olumlu y\u00f6nde etkileyebilir. Yukar\u0131 Karaba\u011f\u2019daki \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmadan 20 y\u0131l sonra, bir milyondan fazla Azeri\u2019nin yerinden edilmi\u015f oldu\u011fu kabul edilmektedir ve Azerbaycan topraklar\u0131n\u0131n % 20\u2019si Ermeni i\u015fgali alt\u0131ndad\u0131r. Bu durum, b\u00f6lgesel istikrar ve hatta daha geni\u015f bir co\u011frafya bak\u0131m\u0131ndan tehdit olu\u015fturmaktad\u0131r. Bu nedenle, T\u00fcrkiye ge\u00e7mi\u015fiyle y\u00fczle\u015fmeye haz\u0131rd\u0131r. B\u00fct\u00fcn milletlerden ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z tarih\u00e7ilerden olu\u015facak bir komisyon kurulmas\u0131na olumlu bak\u0131yoruz. Olaylar\u0131 saptamak ve o d\u00f6nemde neler ya\u015fand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlamak i\u00e7in bilgilere ve ar\u015fivlere eri\u015fime izin verece\u011fiz. Ancak, bir parlamenterin veya siyaset\u00e7inin g\u00f6revi tarihi yazmak de\u011fil, gelece\u011fi haz\u0131rlamakt\u0131r.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Willy Brandt\u2019\u0131n Var\u015fova gettosunun \u00f6n\u00fcnde diz \u00e7\u00f6kmesi gibi, g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc pi\u015fmanl\u0131k jestleri, o zamanlarda b\u00fcy\u00fck bir siyasi \u00f6neme sahip de\u011fil miydi?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Biz Ermenistan\u2019a kar\u015f\u0131 siyasi jestlerimizde hi\u00e7 cimri olmad\u0131k: \u00d6rne\u011fin, Ermenistan u\u00e7aklar\u0131n\u0131n \u0130stanbul\u2019a inmesine izin verdik ve size 100.000 Ermeni vatanda\u015f\u0131n\u0131n yasal olmayan \u015fekilde de olsa, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rlatmak isterim. T\u00fcrkiye ile Ermenistan aras\u0131nda \u0130svi\u00e7re\u2019de protokollerin imzalanmas\u0131ndan sonra, T\u00fcrkiye Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Abdullah G\u00fcl, Erivan\u2019a futbol ma\u00e7\u0131 izlemeye gitti ve Ermenistan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 da Bursa\u2019da ma\u00e7 izlemeye geldi. \u00dclkelerimiz aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkilerde g\u00f6r\u00fclmemi\u015f bir ilerleme sa\u011fland\u0131. Ancak o zamandan beri, Ermenistan ile Azerbaycan aras\u0131ndaki \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma nedeniyle her \u015fey durdu. Fransa Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131n\u0131n yan\u0131 s\u0131ra Barack Obama\u2019n\u0131n Minsk Grubu \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde Erivan ile Bak\u00fc aras\u0131nda bar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcrecinin yeniden ba\u015flat\u0131lmas\u0131na y\u00f6nelik giri\u015fimleri bu nedenle \u00f6nemlidir.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Ekim 2005\u2019te ba\u015flayan T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Avrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019ne kat\u0131l\u0131m m\u00fczakereleri hemen hemen hi\u00e7 ilerlemiyor. \u015eimdiye kadar 35 fas\u0131ldan sadece 13 tanesi a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131. 2011 y\u0131l\u0131nda hi\u00e7 a\u00e7\u0131lan fas\u0131l olmad\u0131 ve 2012 y\u0131l\u0131 da yine \u00ab beyaz \u00bb bir y\u0131l olacak: \u0130lerleme sa\u011flanmas\u0131 i\u00e7in 1 Temmuz\u2019da ba\u015flayacak K\u0131br\u0131s D\u00f6nem Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019na da g\u00fcvenmemek gerekiyor. Bu noktaya nas\u0131l gelindi?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Bir numaral\u0131 problem G\u00fcney K\u0131br\u0131s Rum Y\u00f6netimi\u2019nin tutumu. Aral\u0131k 2006\u2019da Avrupa Birli\u011fi Zirvesi, liman ve havaalanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlara a\u00e7mama karar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 cezaland\u0131rmak i\u00e7in 8 fas\u0131lda m\u00fczakereleri dondurma karar\u0131 ald\u0131. K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlar da 6 fasl\u0131n daha m\u00fczakereye a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kacaklar\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131lar. 2007 y\u0131l\u0131nda Nicolas Sarkozy, se\u00e7ilmesinin hemen ard\u0131ndan, 1\u2019i AB taraf\u0131ndan daha \u00f6nce dondurulmu\u015f olan 5 fasl\u0131 bloke etti\u011fini a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, toplamda 17 fas\u0131l bloke edilmi\u015f oldu. Hen\u00fcz m\u00fczakereye a\u00e7\u0131lmam\u0131\u015f fas\u0131llar ise en karma\u015f\u0131k olan ve aday \u00fclkelerin genelde m\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecinin sonuna geldiklerinde \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 fas\u0131llar. 3 y\u0131ldan beri Avrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019ni vuran kriz de hi\u00e7bir \u015feyi halletmedi: \u00dclkelerin \u00e7o\u011fu Avro B\u00f6lgesindeki s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lara odaklanm\u0131\u015f durumda ve uzun vadeli meselelerden ka\u00e7\u0131nmak e\u011filimindeler. Ama ben eminim ki zamanla 27 \u00fclkenin her biri, AB\u2019nin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye, en az T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin AB\u2019ye ihtiya\u00e7 duydu\u011fu kadar ihtiyac\u0131 oldu\u011funu anlayacaklar. Biz sab\u0131rl\u0131 olmay\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendik. AB ile m\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecine ba\u015flama tarihi almak i\u00e7in yakla\u015f\u0131k yar\u0131m as\u0131r bekledik. Yeni bir fas\u0131l a\u00e7\u0131lmamas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, reformlara devam ettik, yani bloke edilmi\u015f fas\u0131llarda AB m\u00fcktesabat\u0131n\u0131 uygulamaya ge\u00e7irmeye devam ettik. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi daha demokratik, daha zengin ve daha g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc yapmak i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli olan i\u015fte bu s\u00fcre\u00e7.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> T\u00fcrk H\u00fck\u00fcmeti, K\u0131br\u0131s Cumhuriyeti\u2019ni tan\u0131mad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in K\u0131br\u0131s D\u00f6nem Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile hi\u00e7 bir temas kurmayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131 (7). Br\u00fcksel ile ili\u015fkilerinizi biraz daha zorla\u015ft\u0131rmaktan endi\u015fe duymuyor musunuz?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> E\u011fer t\u00fcm aday\u0131 temsil etseydi, biz G\u00fcney K\u0131br\u0131s Rum Y\u00f6netimi D\u00f6nem Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile ili\u015fki i\u00e7inde olmaktan memnun olurduk, ancak, onlar adan\u0131n sadece bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131 temsil ediyorlar: Rum kesimi. K\u0131br\u0131s\u2019\u0131n bir konfederasyon \u015feklinde birle\u015fmesini \u00f6ng\u00f6ren BM\u2019nin Annan Plan\u0131, Nisan 2004\u2019te yap\u0131lan referandumla adan\u0131n kuzeyinde K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrkler taraf\u0131ndan b\u00fcy\u00fck bir oranla kabul edilirken, g\u00fcneyde K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlar taraf\u0131ndan reddedildi. Ancak bu durum, K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlar\u0131n referandumdan k\u0131sa bir s\u00fcre sonra AB \u00fcyesi olmas\u0131na engel olmad\u0131. Avrupa Birli\u011fi Zirvesi, oybirli\u011fiyle adan\u0131n kuzeyinin izolasyonuna son verme karar\u0131 ald\u0131. 27 \u00fclke aras\u0131nda adan\u0131n kuzeyi ile tek ticari ili\u015fkiye sahip olan K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlar, \u00e7eli\u015fkili bi\u00e7imde, , s\u00f6zkonusu AB karar\u0131n\u0131n uygulanmas\u0131n\u0131 engelleyerek di\u011fer \u00fclkelerin ticari ili\u015fki kurmas\u0131na izin vermiyorlar. \u00d6rne\u011fin, Air France havayolu \u015firketi, kuzeydeki Ercan havaalan\u0131na inebilse, T\u00fcrkiye hemen limanlar\u0131n\u0131 ve havaalanlar\u0131n\u0131 K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlara a\u00e7maya haz\u0131r. Tayvan \u00f6rne\u011finde oldu\u011fu gibi,\u00a0 bir \u00fclke ile ticaret yapmak, o \u00fclkeyi diplomatik olarak tan\u0131mak anlam\u0131na gelmez. 1973 y\u0131l\u0131ndan bu yana, K\u0131br\u0131s Cumhuriyeti\u2019ni tan\u0131m\u0131yoruz ve AB D\u00f6nem Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 y\u00fcr\u00fctece\u011fi 6 ayl\u0131k s\u00fcre i\u00e7in, z\u0131mni olarak da olsa tan\u0131mak zorunda kalmak istemiyoruz. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, y\u00f6neticileri ile hi\u00e7 bir ili\u015fkiye girmeyece\u011fiz ve Ocak ay\u0131nda \u0130rlanda D\u00f6nem Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile her \u015fey yeniden ele al\u0131nacak. Bunun yan\u0131 s\u0131ra, t\u00fcm bu s\u00fcre boyunca, Komisyon ile ili\u015fkilerimizi s\u00fcrd\u00fcrece\u011fiz. Komisyon, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin \u00f6neminin fark\u0131ndad\u0131r, May\u0131s ay\u0131n\u0131n ortalar\u0131nda Komisyon ile birlikte ba\u015flatt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u00ab Pozitif G\u00fcndem \u00bb de bunu g\u00f6stermektedir.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>Bu \u2018\u2019Pozitif G\u00fcndem\u2019\u2019 nedir?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> \u2018\u2019Pozitif G\u00fcndem\u2019\u2019, \u00fcyelik s\u00fcrecine bir alternatif de\u011fildir, \u00fcyelik s\u00fcrecini canland\u0131rma \u015feklidir. Avrupa Birli\u011fi Zirvesi taraf\u0131ndan dondurulan 8 fas\u0131lda \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma gruplar\u0131 olu\u015fturulmas\u0131 \u00f6ng\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Enerji sorunlar\u0131, uluslararas\u0131 ter\u00f6rizmle m\u00fccadele ve\u00a0 vize sorunu ile ilgili\u00a0 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma gruplar\u0131 da olacak. Bu, -Komisyon\u2019un da deste\u011fi ile- reformlara devam etme, kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 olarak birbirimizi de\u011ferlendirme ve farkl\u0131 konularda daha somut tart\u0131\u015fmalar yapman\u0131n bir yolu. Benim, Geni\u015flemeden Sorumlu Avrupa Komisyonu \u00fcyesi Stefan F\u00fcle ile s\u0131k s\u0131k bir araya gelme ve \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma f\u0131rsat\u0131m oluyor. Ancak, \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131, Adalet Bakan\u0131, D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131, \u00c7evre Bakan\u0131 gibi T\u00fcrk Bakanlar\u0131n da faaliyet alanlar\u0131 itibar\u0131yla, ortak menfaatlerimiz do\u011frultusunda \u00f6nemli meseleler \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak \u00fczere Avrupa Komisyonu\u2019ndaki mevkida\u015flar\u0131 ile bir araya gelmesi \u00f6nemli.\u00a0<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> T\u00fcrklerin Avrupa\u2019ya kar\u015f\u0131 artan \u015f\u00fcphecili\u011fi sizi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcr\u00fcyor mu? Bu tats\u0131z gidi\u015fat\u0131 nas\u0131l yorumluyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>Avrupa yanl\u0131s\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerde ya\u015fanan erozyon, bize kar\u015f\u0131 olan baz\u0131 incitici a\u00e7\u0131klama ve kararlar\u0131n sonucudur. T\u00fcrkiye, \u00fcyelik m\u00fczakereleri devam ederken,\u00a0 vatanda\u015flar\u0131ndan \u00fcye \u00fclkelere giri\u015fte vize istenen tek aday \u00fclkedir. Bir ba\u015fka unsur ise, Avrupal\u0131 ortaklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n PKK ter\u00f6r\u00fcyle m\u00fccadelede bize yard\u0131mc\u0131 olma konusunda g\u00f6sterdikleri durgunluk.\u00a0 K\u0131br\u0131s sorunu da bu olumsuz tabloya katk\u0131da bulunuyor: K\u0131br\u0131s\u2019\u0131n birle\u015fmesi konusu, K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlar\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na AB \u00fcyeli\u011fi i\u00e7in bir \u00f6nko\u015ful olarak getirilmemi\u015f olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na bir \u00f6nko\u015ful olarak \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131l\u0131yor. T\u00fcrk Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 ve Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 be\u015f seneden beri Avrupa zirvelerine davet edilmiyorlar. Bunlar verilebilecek \u00f6rneklerden sadece birka\u00e7 tanesi\u2026<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin amac\u0131 AB\u2019ye tam \u00fcyelik mi? Nicolas Sarkozy ve Angela Merkel\u2019in \u00f6nerdi\u011fi \u201cimtiyazl\u0131 ortakl\u0131k\u201d stat\u00fcs\u00fc sizin i\u00e7in tatmin edici olur mu?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Kurucu Antla\u015fmalar ve AB metinleri aday \u00fclkelerden, \u00fcyeli\u011fi m\u00fczakere eden \u00fclkelerden ve \u00fcye \u00fclkelerden bahseder. On binlerce sayfal\u0131k bu metinlerin hi\u00e7bir yerinde, \u201cimtiyazl\u0131 ortakl\u0131k\u201d stat\u00fcs\u00fcnden bahsedilmiyor. Bu kavram\u0131n hi\u00e7bir hukuki dayana\u011f\u0131 bulunmamaktad\u0131r. Biz zaten halihaz\u0131rda\u00a0 g\u00fcmr\u00fck birli\u011finin ve Avrupa kurulu\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n par\u00e7as\u0131y\u0131z. T\u00fcrkiye AB\u2019ye ya tam olarak \u00fcye olacakt\u0131r ya da hi\u00e7 olmayacakt\u0131r.\u00a0<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong>Avro krizi ve ekonomik durgunluk T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye (2011\u2019de ekonomik b\u00fcy\u00fcmesi % 9\u2019a ula\u015ft\u0131) 27 \u00fcye kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda art\u0131 bir de\u011fer sa\u011fl\u0131yor mu?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>T\u00fcrkiye, Avrupa i\u00e7in hi\u00e7bir zaman olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 kadar bir \u015fans haline geldi. Ocak ay\u0131nda D\u00fcnya Ekonomik Forumu\u2019na kat\u0131lmak \u00fczere Davos\u2019a gittim ve Avrupa\u2019n\u0131n H\u00fck\u00fcmet ve Devlet Ba\u015fkanlar\u0131yla veya onlar\u0131n temsilcileriyle konu\u015furken k\u00f6t\u00fcmser bir havayla\u00a0 kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131m. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeden edemedim: \u201cHaydi silkelenin ve kendinize gelin ! Bizim gibi siz de ge\u00e7mi\u015fte \u00e7ok daha k\u00f6t\u00fclerini ya\u015fad\u0131n\u0131z!.\u201d 1999-2001 y\u0131llar\u0131 aras\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye, \u00fcst \u00fcste ya\u015fanan iflaslar, kur piyasalar\u0131nda T\u00fcrk liras\u0131nda ya\u015fanan dalgalanmalar y\u00fcz\u00fcnden, birka\u00e7 g\u00fcnde, hatta bir gecede, insanlar\u0131n veya \u015firketlerin bor\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7 kat\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r bir finansal krizden ge\u00e7ti. Biz ne yapt\u0131k? Finansal sistemi yeniden yap\u0131land\u0131rd\u0131k ve iyile\u015ftirdik. \u00c7ok \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k, mali disiplini tesis ettik, insanlar\u0131n g\u00fcvenini yeniden kazand\u0131k ve istikrar\u0131 sa\u011flad\u0131k. Bug\u00fcn Avrupa\u2019n\u0131n en dinamik ekonomisiyiz ve \u00c7in\u2019den sonra, G8\u2019de ikinci s\u0131raday\u0131z. Avrupa da kendine g\u00fcvenini yeniden kazanmal\u0131. Avrupa, krize ra\u011fmen h\u00e2l\u00e2 d\u00fcnyan\u0131n en zengin b\u00f6lgesi: Sadece ki\u015fi ba\u015f\u0131na d\u00fc\u015fen ortalama gelirden bahsetmiyorum, insan haklar\u0131 ve ifade \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc, g\u0131da g\u00fcvenli\u011fi veya yenilenebilir enerji standartlar\u0131ndan da bahsediyorum.\u00a0 Avrupa projesi, bu k\u0131tada bar\u0131\u015f ve istikrar\u0131 sa\u011flad\u0131. \u015eu andaki eksi\u011fi, siyasi irade ve ger\u00e7ek bir liderlik.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> T\u00fcrkiye AB\u2019ye ne getirecek?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> T\u00fcrkiye, Avrupa \u015firketlerine 75 milyonluk geni\u015f bir pazar sunuyor. Bunun yan\u0131nda, \u0130stanbul\u2019dan u\u00e7akla d\u00f6rt saatlik mesafede, d\u00fcnya n\u00fcfusunun d\u00f6rtte birine ve Balkanlar, Orta Do\u011fu ve Orta Asya\u2019dan 56 \u00fclkeye ula\u015fmak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Yard\u0131m etmeye haz\u0131r\u0131z, ancak 27 \u00fcyeden daha iyi muamele bekliyoruz. Ayr\u0131ca, ortak sorunlara kar\u015f\u0131 koyabilmek i\u00e7in \u00f6n yarg\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 y\u0131kmal\u0131y\u0131z. Avro B\u00f6lgesi\u2019ndeki kriz ve AB\u2019nin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorunlar, bizleri do\u011frudan etkiliyor. \u0130hracat\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n yar\u0131s\u0131 AB \u00fclkelerine yap\u0131l\u0131yor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gelen turistlerin % 65\u2019i de Avrupal\u0131. Ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye yap\u0131lan yabanc\u0131 yat\u0131r\u0131mlar\u0131n % 85\u2019i ve yeni teknolojilerin b\u00fcy\u00fck bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc AB \u00fclkelerinden geliyor.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong>Krizden \u00e7\u0131kmak i\u00e7in Avrupal\u0131lara somut olarak ne tavsiye ediyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> \u00c7ok \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 ve \u00f6zellikle, en ba\u015fta demokrasi olmak \u00fczere, kurucu de\u011ferlerini yeniden ke\u015ffetmelerini tavsiye ediyorum. Ge\u00e7ici h\u00fck\u00fcmetlerle veya teknokrat ekiplerle sa\u011flam yap\u0131sal reformlar ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirmek imk\u00e2ns\u0131zd\u0131r. Sadece halklar\u0131ndan tam destek alan h\u00fck\u00fcmetler bu t\u00fcr de\u011fi\u015fiklikleri yapabilir. E\u011fer \u00f6nemli noktalar a\u00e7\u0131k bir \u015fekilde anlat\u0131ld\u0131ysa, halk, zorluklara ra\u011fmen o h\u00fck\u00fcmetin arkas\u0131nda duracakt\u0131r. Biz bunu tecr\u00fcbe ettik. Kas\u0131m 2002\u2019de AK Parti ile birlikte Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan se\u00e7imleri kazand\u0131\u011f\u0131nda, pop\u00fclist s\u00f6zler vermekten ka\u00e7\u0131nd\u0131. B\u00fcy\u00fck bir kriz i\u00e7inde olmam\u0131za ra\u011fmen se\u00e7menlerimize: Gelecek \u00fc\u00e7 y\u0131l i\u00e7in bizden bir \u015fey beklemeyin, sonras\u0131nda fark\u0131 ceplerinizde hissedeceksiniz dedik. Ba\u015fta kolay olmad\u0131, ama insanlar bize g\u00fcvendi ve sonu\u00e7lar ortada. 10 y\u0131lda zenginli\u011fimiz \u00fc\u00e7e katland\u0131. Avrupa da ayn\u0131 \u015feyi yapabilir.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Yunanistan\u2019\u0131n Avro B\u00f6lgesi\u2019nden\u00a0 olas\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u0131 sizi endi\u015felendiriyor mu?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Tabi ki. Yunanistan bizim kom\u015fumuz, \u00f6nemli ticari bir ortak ve NATO\u2019da m\u00fcttefikimiz. Bizler g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir Yunanistan istiyoruz, g\u00fc\u00e7s\u00fcz bir Yunanistan de\u011fil.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Avrupa Komisyonu\u2019nun T\u00fcrkiye \u0130lerleme Raporunda, ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirilen ilerlemelere ra\u011fmen reformlarda ya\u015fanan yava\u015flamaya dikkat \u00e7ekiliyor. Bu konuda cevab\u0131n\u0131z nedir?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>Reformlarda bir yava\u015flama oldu\u011fu kanaatinde de\u011filim. Tam tersine, ge\u00e7en sene H\u00fck\u00fcmet ile askerler aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkiler Avrupa standartlar\u0131na ula\u015ft\u0131. Dini az\u0131nl\u0131klar ile kamu makamlar\u0131 aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkiler iyile\u015fti ve 1930\u2019dan beri a\u00e7mazda olan, dinsel vak\u0131flar\u0131n ta\u015f\u0131nmaz mal edinme sorunu sonunda \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcld\u00fc. Ermeni as\u0131ll\u0131 vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z bir y\u00fczy\u0131ldan bu yana ilk defa, Van g\u00f6l\u00fcndeki Akdamar adas\u0131ndaki kilisede ibadet edebildiler.\u00a0 Yunan as\u0131ll\u0131 vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z, Trabzon yak\u0131nlar\u0131ndaki S\u00fcmela Manast\u0131r\u0131na yeniden gidebiliyorlar. Eski cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131n\u0131z Romanlar\u0131 Fransa\u2019dan s\u00fcrerken, bizler Romanlar\u0131n topluma daha iyi entegre olmalar\u0131 i\u00e7in yeni lojmanlar in\u015fa ettik. K\u00fcrt as\u0131ll\u0131 vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z, bundan 15 y\u0131l \u00f6ncesine kadar K\u00fcrt olduklar\u0131n\u0131 ifade dahi edemiyorlarken, \u015fimdi 24 saat K\u00fcrt\u00e7e yay\u0131n yapan devlet kanallar\u0131na sahipler. Art\u0131k \u00fcniversitelerde K\u00fcrt\u00e7e b\u00f6l\u00fcmler var. Hapishanelerin ziyaret\u00e7i odalar\u0131nda, K\u00fcrtler yak\u0131nlar\u0131yla ana dillerinde konu\u015fabiliyorlar. San\u0131klar\u0131n haklar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00fcvence alt\u0131na almak i\u00e7in, hukuk alan\u0131nda reformlar ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdik.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>Bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir\u00e7ok hukuk\u00e7u ve STK taraf\u0131ndan ele\u015ftirilen ter\u00f6rle m\u00fccadele yasas\u0131 y\u00fcz\u00fcnden 100 civar\u0131nda gazeteci hapishanede bulunmakta. Bu ele\u015ftirilerin bir k\u0131sm\u0131 Avrupa Komisyonu\u2019nun son \u0130lerleme Raporunda da yer al\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Bu gazeteciler, gazeteci olduklar\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 de\u011fil, ter\u00f6rist\u00a0 organizasyonlara \u00fcye olmaktan veya su\u00e7 i\u015flemekten dolay\u0131 hapishanedeler.\u00a0 Gazeteci olmak cezaland\u0131r\u0131lmayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z anlam\u0131na gelmiyor.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Avrupa Parlamentosu ba\u015fkan\u0131, Alman Sosyal-Demokrat Martin Schultz, May\u0131s ay\u0131 sonunda Ankara\u2019ya geli\u015fi s\u0131ras\u0131nda, halen hapishanede bulunan CHP\u2019li (Cumhuriyet\u00e7i Halk Partisi, ana muhalefet partisi) ve BDP\u2019li (Demokratik Bir Toplum i\u00e7in Hareket, K\u00fcrt yanl\u0131s\u0131 parti) 15 milletvekilin ak\u0131betinden kayg\u0131land\u0131.<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> A\u00e7\u0131k olmak gerekiyor: Hi\u00e7bir milletvekili hapishaneye at\u0131lmad\u0131. Bahsetti\u011finiz ki\u015filer, daha \u00f6nce ter\u00f6rist organizasyonlara \u00fcye olmaktan veya H\u00fck\u00fcmeti d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrmeyi ama\u00e7layan komplolarda yer almaktan dolay\u0131 hapishanede bulunan ki\u015filerdi. Partileri, serbest b\u0131rak\u0131lacaklar\u0131n\u0131 \u00fcmit ederek onlar\u0131 se\u00e7im listelerine kaydettiler. Hukuk bunu reddetti. Buna ancak hukuk karar verebilir, H\u00fck\u00fcmet de\u011fil. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de hukuk ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zd\u0131r. \u00d6ylesine ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z ki, bundan d\u00f6rt y\u0131l \u00f6nce iktidardaki partiyi yasaklamak ve ba\u015fbakan\u0131, cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131n\u0131 ve AK Parti\u2019nin, ben dahil, baz\u0131 milletvekillerini seneler boyunca siyasetten men etmek i\u00e7in bir hukuki s\u00fcre\u00e7 ba\u015flat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Savc\u0131 beni,\u00a0 tahrik edici a\u00e7\u0131klamalarda bulunmakla su\u00e7luyordu. Su\u00e7land\u0131\u011f\u0131m a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131mdan bir tanesi: \u201cbir kad\u0131n\u0131n mini etek giyme hakk\u0131 oldu\u011fu gibi t\u00fcrban takma hakk\u0131 da vard\u0131r\u201d idi. Avrupal\u0131lara gidip a\u011flamad\u0131k. Hukukun, bu t\u00fcr sa\u00e7ma su\u00e7lamalar kar\u015f\u0131nda i\u015fini yapmas\u0131n\u0131 bekledik ve su\u00e7lamalar sonunda s\u00fcp\u00fcr\u00fcl\u00fcp at\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> AK Parti taraf\u0131ndan uzun s\u00fcredir s\u00f6z verilen yeni Anayasa, nihayet tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmaya ba\u015fland\u0131. Parlamentoda bulunan d\u00f6rt partinin (AK Parti, CHP, MHP, BDP) temsilcilerinden olu\u015fan bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma grubu olu\u015fturuldu. Bu projenin ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olma \u015fans\u0131 var m\u0131?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Ben bu konuda iyimserim. Cumhuriyet tarihinde ilk defa Parlamentonun olu\u015fumu se\u00e7men iradesinin % 95\u2019ine tekab\u00fcl ediyor. Daha \u00f6nceden bu oran % 10 se\u00e7im baraj\u0131n\u0131n da etkisiyle % 70-% 75\u2019lerdeydi. Parlamentoda yer alan d\u00f6rt parti, ayn\u0131 say\u0131da temsil edildikleri bu grupta birlikte \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak konusunda mutab\u0131k. Bu komisyon bir y\u0131l boyunca, sivil toplum kurulu\u015flar\u0131n\u0131, az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131, sendikalar\u0131\u00a0 kabul edip dinledi. B\u00fct\u00fcn bu kurulu\u015flar \u00f6nerilerini ve fikirlerini dile getirdiler. Komisyon \u015fu a\u015famada farkl\u0131 maddelerin redaksiyonu ile me\u015fgul. Bu yeni Anayasa, T\u00fcrkiye ve AB aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkileri de de\u011fi\u015ftirecek. Y\u00fcr\u00fcrl\u00fckteki Anayasa, Eyl\u00fcl 1980 darbesinin bir \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc olarak ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131 ve son y\u0131llarda yap\u0131lan bir\u00e7ok de\u011fi\u015fikli\u011fe ra\u011fmen darbe ruhunun Anayasan\u0131n i\u00e7ine i\u015flemi\u015f oldu\u011fu g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Yunanistan, \u0130spanya ve Portekiz diktat\u00f6rl\u00fck rejiminden kurtulduklar\u0131 zaman, AB\u2019ye kat\u0131l\u0131m s\u00fcreci \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde yeni birer anayasa yapm\u0131\u015flard\u0131. \u015eimdi biz de yeni Anayasam\u0131z\u0131 yap\u0131yoruz. Medya \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ve genel anlamda \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckler bak\u0131m\u0131ndan sizin de de\u011findi\u011finiz \u00e7ok say\u0131da problemin kayna\u011f\u0131 1980 tarihli bu metindir.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014 <\/em><\/strong>T\u00fcrkiye, bu b\u00f6lge i\u00e7in, \u00f6zellikle de \u00abArap Bahar\u0131\u00bb olarak adland\u0131r\u0131lan devrimler i\u00e7in bir model te\u015fkil edebilir mi?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Bir \u201cmodel\u201d veya \u201c\u00f6rnek\u201dten ziyade, bir \u201cesin kayna\u011f\u0131\u201d demeyi tercih ederim.<\/p>\n

B\u00fcy\u00fcmemize, ekonomik dinamizmimize ve gen\u00e7 n\u00fcfusumuza \u00f6zenen Avrupa \u00fclkelerinin yan\u0131nda bu rol\u00fc \u00fcstlenebiliriz. Yak\u0131n ve Orta Do\u011fu \u00fclkelerine ayr\u0131ca Orta Asya \u00fclkelerine demokrasi, \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fcklere sayg\u0131 ve insan haklar\u0131n\u0131n korunmas\u0131 konular\u0131nda \u00f6\u011fretecek \u00e7ok \u015feyimiz var. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman liderler, M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019a ve Libya\u2019ya gidip insanlarla birlikte dua ederler. Bat\u0131l\u0131 liderler ise, bu \u00fclkelere demokrasiden ve laiklikten s\u00f6z etmek i\u00e7in giderler. Biz, Ba\u015fbakan\u0131m\u0131z Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n g\u00f6sterdi\u011fi gibi ikisini de yapabiliriz. T\u00fcrkiye, bat\u0131n\u0131n en do\u011fulu, do\u011funun en bat\u0131l\u0131 \u00fclkesidir. B\u00f6lgedeki y\u00fckseli\u015fimiz bizim AB\u2019ye sa\u011flayaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z katk\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

MS. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Suriye krizinin \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcnde T\u00fcrkiye nas\u0131l bir rol oynayabilir?<\/p>\n

EB. \u2014<\/em><\/strong> Bu trajediye diplomatik bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulmak i\u00e7in elimizden gelenin en iyisini yap\u0131yoruz. Bu b\u00f6lgeyi AB \u00fclkelerinin \u00e7o\u011fundan daha iyi biliyoruz. Topraklar\u0131m\u0131zda 25.000\u2019den fazla Suriyeli m\u00fclteciyi a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131yoruz. Krizin en ba\u015f\u0131nda, Recep Tayyip Erdogan Suriye Devlet Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Be\u015far Esad\u2019\u0131 halk\u0131n\u0131 dinlemesi ve reformlar\u0131 hayata ge\u00e7irmesi i\u00e7in ikna etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131. E\u011fer Suriye, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin son y\u0131llarda ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdiklerinin % 10\u2019unu ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirebilmi\u015f olsayd\u0131, bug\u00fcn bu derece b\u00fcy\u00fck bir sorundan bahsetmiyor olacakt\u0131k. Bizim b\u00f6lgemiz bir\u00e7ok sava\u015fa tan\u0131kl\u0131k etti; meseleleri ba\u015fka ara\u00e7larla halletmemiz gerekiyor.\u00a0 Fransa gibi Avrupal\u0131 ortaklar\u0131m\u0131z, Birle\u015fmi\u015f Milletler ba\u011flam\u0131nda ise Rusya ve \u00c7in gibi ortaklar\u0131m\u0131z ile ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131 bir \u015fekilde, meseleye diplomatik bak\u0131mdan bu y\u00f6nde yakla\u015f\u0131yoruz. Her \u015feyden \u00f6nce bu konular meslekta\u015f\u0131m D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Ahmet Davuto\u011flu\u2019nun yetkisinde olan konular, ancak, yine de baz\u0131 meselelere dikkat \u00e7ekmek isterim. May\u0131s sonu ve Haziran ba\u015f\u0131 aras\u0131nda, \u0130stanbul\u2019da pe\u015fpe\u015fe toplant\u0131lar ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirildi: Medeniyetler \u0130ttifak\u0131 Zirvesi, D\u00fcnya Ekonomik Forumu ve Somali \u00fczerine bir konferans. Bunlardan k\u0131sa bir s\u00fcre \u00f6nce ise Suriye Dostlar\u0131n\u0131n toplant\u0131s\u0131na ev sahipli\u011fi yapt\u0131k.\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye, bundan b\u00f6yle, diplomatik planda sadece b\u00f6lgesel anlamda de\u011fil ayn\u0131 zamanda k\u00fcresel anlamda da vazge\u00e7ilmeyecek bir ortak haline gelmi\u015ftir.
\n\u00a0<\/p>\n

M\u00fclakat\u0131n orijinal metnine a\u015fa\u011f\u0131da yer alan internet adresinden ula\u015f\u0131labilmektedir:
\n<\/em><\/strong>
\nhttp:\/\/politiqueinternationale.com\/revue\/article.php?id_revue=136&id=1115&content=synopsis#show1<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.ab-ilan.com\/son-haber\/egemen-bagis-in-fransiz-dergisindeki-mulakati-009174.html<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Hi\u00e7 kimseyi bize y\u00f6nelik dost\u00e7a bir tutum tak\u0131nmaya zorlayamay\u0131z, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[55,1,71],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17939","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ermenistan-turkiye","category-haberler","category-mulakatlar"],"yoast_head":"\nEgemen Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f'\u0131n Frans\u0131z Dergisindeki M\u00fclakat\u0131 - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=17939\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Egemen Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f'\u0131n Frans\u0131z Dergisindeki M\u00fclakat\u0131 - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Marc Semo \u2014 Say\u0131n Bakan, Fran\u00e7ois Hollande\u2019\u0131n se\u00e7imleri kazanmas\u0131, Nicolas Sarkozy\u2019nin 5 y\u0131l s\u00fcren cumhurba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 boyunca ciddi olarak zedelenen Fransa-T\u00fcrkiye ili\u015fkilerinde yeni bir sayfa a\u00e7abilir mi? 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