{"id":11016,"date":"2011-12-30T04:37:22","date_gmt":"2011-12-30T09:37:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=11016"},"modified":"2012-04-19T06:49:03","modified_gmt":"2012-04-19T11:49:03","slug":"11016","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=11016","title":{"rendered":"Bir Okurumuza Cevap-1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u201cDervi\u015f\u201d rumuzlu (yeva isimli) okurumuzdan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z metubu yo\u011funluktan dolay\u0131 gecikmi\u015f cevaplad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in \u00f6nceden \u00f6z\u00fcr dileriz. A\u015fa\u011f\u0131da, okurumuzun mektuplar\u0131n\u0131 ve cevab\u0131n\u0131 takdim etmekteyiz.<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>1. Uzun bir s\u00fcredir ANADOLU HAY tarihini incelemekteyim..bir konuya dikkatinizi \u00e7ekerim..D\u0130KRANAGERT hep HAY antik \u015fehri olarak kabul g\u00f6rmekte idi ve K\u00dcRT\u2019lerle bu konuda \u015fehrin esas antik kurucusu ve sahipleri konusunda hep tart\u0131\u015f\u0131rd\u0131k.. aniden baz\u0131 HAY sitelerinde bizim D\u0130KRANAGERT \u015fimdiki D\u0130YARBAKIR s\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131nda de\u011fil ba\u015fka bir yerde diye B\u00dcY\u00dcK D\u0130KRAN\u2019\u0131n miras\u0131ndan vazge\u00e7me..ya da K\u00fcrtlerle payla\u015fma gibi teslimiyet\u00e7i tutum ba\u015flad\u0131..bu uzla\u015fma aray\u0131\u015f\u0131 sadece DAC\u0130K lere kar\u015f\u0131 i\u015fbirli\u011fi i\u00e7inse YAZIK etmekteler HAY tarihine\u2026\u00f6zellikle SASON lu HAY\u2019lar karar vermeli HAY m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z ???? K\u00dcRT m\u00fc ??? ( 2 sene \u00f6nceki ile \u015fimdiki yay\u0131nlar\u0131 izleyin \u201cANADOLUDA ERMEN\u0130LER VARDI..HALA VAR\u201d \u0130S\u0130ML\u0130 S\u0130TEDE ) \u2026PAREVNER<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>2. USA da bulunan sar\u0131,k\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131,siyah,beyaz renkte ve binbir \u00e7e\u015fit dinde ve siyasi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fte olan insanlar YURTTA\u015eLIK \u0130MT\u0130HANINDA ve okullarda ne ve nas\u0131l AND i\u00e7iyorlar ??? bilmiyormusunuz ?? bilmektesiniz ama ger\u00e7e\u011fi yazm\u0131yorsunuz oradaki Ermeni karde\u015fim bu AND\u2019\u0131 okuyorken rahats\u0131z olmuyor da..burada edince niye rahats\u0131z olmaktas\u0131n\u0131z ? olay T\u00dcRK\u0130YE ve T\u00dcRKLER olunca neden bu kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u2026. ayn\u0131 yemin ve And AB \u00fclkelerinin baz\u0131lar\u0131nda ve BR\u0130TANYA\u2019da var neden sizi okuyanlara sayg\u0131s\u0131zca yalan haber vermektesiniz\u2026\u00f6zellikle rica ediyorum bana \u00f6zelimden de cevap verebilirsiniz..sizin bu kadar cahil oldu\u011funuza inanm\u0131yorum HAY milleti entellekt\u00fceldir..o halde ama\u00e7l\u0131 haber yapmaktas\u0131n\u0131z\u2026\u00e7a\u011fr\u0131m olsun gelin bu birbirini SEVEB\u0130LEN halk\u0131n aras\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7maya \u00e7al\u015fmay\u0131n\u2026 bu yorumu da eklemezseniz HZ.\u0130san\u0131n \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan mahrum kal\u0131n\u2026yolunuz GEHENNA olsun<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Cevap<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Say\u0131n Dervi\u015f<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Web sayfam\u0131za sizden iki mektup ula\u015fm\u0131\u015f bulunmaktad\u0131r. Dikkat \u00e7eken durum, ikisinin de (nedense) \u00f6nyarg\u0131l\u0131 bir \u00fcslupla yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131. Birinde, yorumunuzun sitemize eklenmeyece\u011fini varsayarak, \u00f6nceden lanetler okuyorsunuz, ikincisinde ise, (bu darbe sadece bize y\u00f6nelik de\u011fil) t\u00fcm Ermeni sitelerini \u201cB\u00fcy\u00fck Dikran\u2019\u0131n miras\u0131ndan vazge\u00e7mek\u201d veya \u201cteslimiyet\u00e7ilikle\u201d su\u00e7luyorsunuz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Say\u0131n Dervi\u015f, Ermeniler miraslar\u0131ndan vazge\u00e7selerdi veya teslimiyet\u00e7ilik g\u00f6sterselerdi (\u00f6yle olanlar da var tabii) d\u00fcnyada zaten \u201cErmeni Sorunu\u201d diye bir \u015fey olmazd\u0131. Hem mektubunuzda \u201cAnt\u201dla ilgili \u201cteslimiyet\u00e7i\u201d duru\u015f sergilememizi istiyor, daha sonra da Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019\u0131n Dikranagert olarak g\u00f6sterilmedi\u011fi i\u00e7in Ermeni sitelerini \u201cteslimiyet\u00e7ilikle\u201d su\u00e7luyorsunuz, sizce de bir ikilem yok mu acaba s\u00f6zlerinizde?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00d6ncelikle, otoriter \u00fclkeler haricinde, d\u00fcnyan\u0131n hi\u00e7bir \u00fclkesinde, \u00f6zellikle de okullarda (Ermenistan\u2019da da) \u00f6\u011frencilere \u201cAnt i\u00e7irme\u201d egzersizleri yapt\u0131r\u0131lmaz. Bunu ya bilmiyorsunuz, ya da bilmezlikten geliyorsunuz. USA\u2019da da sadece vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011fa al\u0131n\u0131rken size ant i\u00e7irirler. USA do\u011fumlu biri de b\u00f6yle bir ant i\u00e7mez. Kald\u0131 ki, USA\u2019da ant i\u00e7mek ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ant i\u00e7mek aras\u0131nda \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir fark var. Sizin de s\u00f6yledi\u011finiz gibi USA, herhangi bir \u0131rk\u0131n, kavmin, milletin, a\u015firetin vs. dominant oldu\u011fu bir \u00fclke olmay\u0131p, di\u011ferleri bu \u0131rk\u0131n veya milletin ad\u0131na ant i\u00e7mezler. O \u00fclkelerde hi\u00e7 kimse, kendisinden olmayana kendi ad\u0131na ant i\u00e7irmez.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">S\u00f6z konusu yaz\u0131da (antla ilgili) sadece bir ki\u015finin kendi ad\u0131n\u0131 kullanacak kadar cesaretli olmas\u0131 dahi ortada ba\u015fka problemlerin de oldu\u011funun kan\u0131t\u0131 de\u011fil mi sizce? O da zaten neredeyse Bah\u00e7eli\u2019yle rekabet edecek. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015fayan toplumlar\u0131 nas\u0131l anaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilemiyor. T\u00fcrk demek bir \u0131rk\u0131 i\u015faret etmezmi\u015f, sevsinler. Yalakal\u0131\u011f\u0131n bu derecesi bazen insan\u0131 insanl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan utand\u0131r\u0131yor. \u201cT\u00fcrk olmayanlar\u201d hakikaten rahat ve sorunsuz ya\u015fasayd\u0131, belki bu buram-buram fa\u015fizm kokan anttan dahi gocunmazlard\u0131. Mesela, Almanya\u2019da ya\u015fay\u0131p hi\u00e7bir ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011fa u\u011framasalard\u0131 benzer bir and\u0131 i\u00e7mekte de bir sak\u0131nca g\u00f6rmez, \u201cbu da bizden gitsin\u201d diyebilirlerdi, fakat i\u015fte\u2026 orda b\u00f6yle bir ant yok. B\u00f6yle bir and\u0131n olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131, benzer problemlerin, ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n, milliyet\u00e7ili\u011fin, asimilasyon \u00e7abalar\u0131n\u0131n olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n da g\u00f6stergesidir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Enteresan, \u201cbirbirini sevebilen\u201d hangi halklardan bahsediyorsunuz? Fazla ayr\u0131nt\u0131ya gerek yok, Sel\u00e7uklu ve Osmanl\u0131 tarihinin nas\u0131l kanl\u0131 bir tarih oldu\u011funu bilmiyor musunuz? Cumhuriyet tarihinin dahi, ne denli kanl\u0131, ne denli ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k ve etnik d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131k dolu oldu\u011funu bilmiyor musunuz? 6 Eyl\u00fcl, 20 kura askerlik, varl\u0131k vergisi, Trakya olaylar\u0131, m\u00fcbadele, Sivas katliam\u0131, Malatya katliamlar\u0131, Mara\u015f olaylar\u0131, \u00c7orum katliamlar\u0131, Dersim soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 (!!) K\u00fcrt katliamlar\u0131 ve daha ufak-tefek bir s\u00fcr\u00fc \u201ci\u015fler\u201d. Son 120 y\u0131l i\u00e7inde sadece Ermeniler bir Soyk\u0131r\u0131m ve \u00e7e\u015fitli irili-ufakl\u0131 katliamlara maruz kald\u0131lar. 1896\u2019da \u0130stanbul\u2019un g\u00f6be\u011finde kan ak\u0131yordu, 1909\u2019da, Adana\u2019da 30 bin Ermeni katledildi, Zeytun ve Sasun katliamlar\u0131 (tabii bunlar sana \u201cayaklanma\u201d olarak \u00f6\u011fretilmi\u015ftir). T\u00fcm bunlar, bu olaylar\u0131n \u201cm\u00fcnferit\u201d olmay\u0131p, periyodik ve sistematik oldu\u011funu ziyadesiyle kan\u0131tlamaktad\u0131r. Bunu anlamamak i\u00e7in insan\u0131n k\u00f6r olmas\u0131 gerekmektedir. G\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz gibi \u201cama\u00e7l\u0131\u201d i\u015f g\u00f6ren bizler de\u011filiz, o \u201camac\u0131\u201d bamba\u015fka yerlerde araman\u0131z gerekmektedir. G\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz gibi \u201ccahil\u201d de de\u011filiz, t\u00fcm bunlar\u0131 biliyoruz, ya siz? Siz de biliyor muydunuz? Yoksa milyonlarca T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015f\u0131 gibi \u00fc\u00e7 maymunu oynay\u0131p, sustu\u011funuz, konu\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z s\u00fcrece t\u00fcm bunlar\u0131n bir g\u00fcn son bulaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, bunun da tam da bug\u00fcn olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, nihayet o g\u00fcn\u00fcn gelmi\u015f oldu\u011funu (100 y\u0131ld\u0131r her Ermeni bu r\u00fcyayla ya\u015f\u0131yor) mu san\u0131yorsunuz? Yoksa \u00fc\u00e7 ki\u015fi \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p Ermenilerin duda\u011f\u0131na bal \u00e7ald\u0131klar\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de baz\u0131 \u015feylerin de\u011fi\u015fti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenlerden misiniz? 100 k\u00fcsur y\u0131l \u00f6nce Avrupa\u2019da \u00f6\u011frenim g\u00f6r\u00fcp, kost\u00fcm, redingot giyerek, Frans\u0131zca konu\u015fan 3-5 T\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fc g\u00f6ren Avrupa (hele-hele de Ermeniler) \u201cT\u00fcrkler de\u011fi\u015fmi\u015f\u201d deyip onlar\u0131 \u201cj\u00f6n T\u00fcrkler\u201d diye anmaya ba\u015flad\u0131lar. Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 tertipleyip, uygulama a\u015famas\u0131n\u0131 da bizzat y\u00f6netenlerin bu insanlar oldu\u011fu, dahas\u0131, Naz\u0131m ve Bahaeddin \u015eakir gibi iki doktorun, yani insan hayat\u0131 kurtarmak i\u00e7in yemin etmi\u015f ki\u015filerin bu i\u015fin ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ekmi\u015f olmas\u0131 ise \u00f6zellikle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcr\u00fcc\u00fc de\u011fil mi? Herhalde bu da \u201cm\u00fcnferit\u201d bir durumdur. Nedense bu \u201cmeczuplar\u201d, \u201cmanyaklar\u201d (Hrant da \u201csokaklarda dolu olan manyaklar\u201dla tehdit edilmi\u015fti) hep T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de kol geziyor, biraz garip de\u011fil mi?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Milletlerin birbirini sevmesi ve bar\u0131\u015f i\u00e7inde ya\u015famas\u0131 g\u00fczel bir \u015fey, fakat sevgi i\u00e7in iki taraf gereklidir, yoksa bu a\u015fk \u201cplatonik\u201d olur, Siz, T\u00fcrk milletinin Ermenileri \u201csevdi\u011fini\u201d iddia edebilir misiniz? \u201cEderim\u201d derseniz yalanc\u0131 olursunuz. Ermeniler konu\u015fuyormuymu\u015f, daha ne istiyorsunuz? \u0130tham edece\u011finiz taraf, konu\u015fan de\u011fil, eylemsel taraf olmal\u0131. Sesinizi haks\u0131zl\u0131k yapana y\u00f6neltin, kendisine haks\u0131zl\u0131k yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 ba\u011f\u0131ran, adalet arayana de\u011fil.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Uzunca bir s\u00fcre Ermeni tarihini inceledi\u011finizi s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorsunuz. Nereden, hangi kaynaklardan? Hi\u00e7bir ciddi kaynak Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019\u0131 Dikranagert olarak belirtmez. \u00d6ncelikle belirtelim, Dikranagert bir tek \u015fehrin ad\u0131 de\u011fildir. Kral II. Dikran, Ermenistan d\u00e2hilinde birka\u00e7 \u015fehir kurup, hepsini de Dikranagert olarak adland\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde Diyarbak\u0131r (asl\u0131nda Diyarbekir veya Diyarbekr daha do\u011frudur) olarak an\u0131lan \u015fehir eski Amit\u2019tir. Kral Dikran\u2019\u0131n kurmu\u015f oldu\u011fu Dikranagert ise, baz\u0131 ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lara g\u00f6re g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcz Silvan\u2019d\u0131r. Baz\u0131lar\u0131 ise bunu da do\u011fru bulmamaktad\u0131r. Do\u011fru olan, Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019\u0131n, Dikranagert olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r. Zamanla bu isimler birbirine kar\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f, Ermeniler Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019\u0131 Dikranagert olarak anmaya ba\u015flam\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019\u0131 kimin kurmu\u015f olmas\u0131yla ilgili ise, en az\u0131ndan K\u00fcrtlerin bir katk\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 kesin.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">1. K\u00fcrtler, g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde Anadolu olarak an\u0131lan b\u00f6lgeye ancak XVI. y\u00fczy\u0131lda gelmeye ba\u015flad\u0131lar ve ancak XVII. y\u00fczy\u0131ldan sonra daha b\u00fcy\u00fck oranda geldiler. \u015eehir bu tarihten \u00e7ok \u00f6nce vard\u0131.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">2. Diyarbak\u0131r gibi bir \u015fehir in\u015fa eden milletin belli bir \u015fehircilik ve mimari k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn olmas\u0131 gerekmektedir. H\u00e2lbuki K\u00fcrtler, t\u00fcm tarihleri boyunca da\u011flar\u0131n en y\u00fcksek k\u0131s\u0131mlar\u0131nda ya\u015fay\u0131p, hemen sadece hayvanc\u0131l\u0131kla ge\u00e7inmi\u015f, ancak g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde yeni-yeni \u015fehirle\u015fmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Bug\u00fcn Diyarbak\u0131r sakinlerinin hemen t\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcn K\u00fcrt olmas\u0131, \u015fehrin K\u00fcrtler taraf\u0131ndan in\u015fa edilmi\u015f oldu\u011fu anlam\u0131na gelmez. Aynen, T\u00fcrkiye sath\u0131ndaki hi\u00e7bir \u015fehrin T\u00fcrkler taraf\u0131ndan kurulmu\u015f olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>30.12.2011<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>Sayg\u0131larla<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>Akunq.net <\/em><\/strong><strong><em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cDervi\u015f\u201d rumuzlu (yeva isimli) okurumuzdan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z metubu yo\u011funluktan dolay\u0131 gecikmi\u015f cevaplad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in \u00f6nceden \u00f6z\u00fcr dileriz. A\u015fa\u011f\u0131da, okurumuzun mektuplar\u0131n\u0131 ve cevab\u0131n\u0131 takdim etmekteyiz. 1. 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